FLORIDA BUILDING COMMISSION

World Golf Village

500 South Legacy Trail

St. Augustine, Florida  32092

Plenary Session

February 21, 2014

8:30 AM

 

COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:

 

Dick Browdy, Chairman                                             Robert Hamberger

Hamid Bahadori                                                         Brian Langille

Steve Bassett                                                              Beth Meyer

James Batts                                                                 Darrell Phillips

Bob Boyer                                                                   Bradley W. Schiffer

Donald Brown                                                                        Frederick Schilling

Oscar Calleja                                                               Jim Schock

Jay Carlson                                                                  Drew Smith

David Compton                                                          Jeff Stone

Nan Dean                                                                    Brian Swope

Kevin Flanagan                                                           Tim Tolbert

                                               

                                                                       

 

COMMISSIONERS NOT PRESENT:

 

Charles Frank                                                              Hermino Gonzales                 

Jeffrey Gross                                                              

 

OTHERS PRESENT:

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Jim Richmond                                                             Chris Burgwald

Mo Madani                                                                 April Hammonds

Robert Benbow                                                           Jim Hammers

 

 

MEETING FACILITATION:

 

The meeting was facilitated by Jeff Blair from the FCRC Consensus Center at Florida State University.  Information at: http://consensus.fsu.edu/

 

 

 


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Welcome:

 

Time:  8:30 am

 

Welcome Commissioners, staff, and members of the public to St. Augustine and the February

21, 2014 plenary session of the Florida Building Commission, the first meeting of the New Year. In addition to considering regular procedural issues including product and entity approvals, applications for accreditor and course approvals, petitions for declaratory statements, accessibility waivers, and recommendations from our various committees, the primary focus of the February meeting is to take final action pertaining to rule adoption for Product Approval rules, and to receive an update on proposed legislation of interest to the Commission.

 

Members of the public are requested to sign the attendance sheet on the speaker’s table in the

center of the room. In addition, we have a sign-up sheet for general public comment. As

always, we will provide an opportunity for public comment on each of the Commission’s

substantive discussion topics . If you want to comment on a specific substantive Commission agenda item, please come to the speaker’s table when the issue is up for consideration so we know you want to speak. Public input is welcome, but should be offered before there is a formal motion on the floor. Please remember to keep all electronic devices turned off or in a silent mode. Thank you for your cooperation.

 

There are also buff colored “Public Comment Forms” on the speakers’ table that can be used to

provide written comments. All written comments will be included in the Facilitator’s Summary

Report. Please give your completed “Public Comment Forms” to Jeff Blair.

 

Some of the licensing boards located within the Department of Business and Professional

Regulation have adopted rules regarding continuing education credits for attending Florida

Building Commission meetings and/or Technical Advisory Committee meetings. If your board

participates you may sign-in on the kiosk laptop provided in the meeting room.

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Roll Call:

 

Chairman Browdy performed roll call, a quorum was met with twenty two members present.

 

Chairman Browdy requested that Jeff Blair cover the agenda items for the meeting today.

 

Jeff Blair welcomed participants to the February Plenary Session and introduced the agenda as follows:

 

 

Chairman Browdy requested a motion to approve the February 21, 2014 agenda as presented.  A motion was entered by Commissioner Schock and seconded by Commissioner Calleja, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Jim Richmond addressed the Commission advising of microphone issues including side bar conversations.  He stated the meetings are streamed live and the microphones are very sensitive, he cautioned the Commissioners to be sure the microphones are in the off position until they are ready to address the Commission on issues.


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Approval of the December 13, 2013 Facilitator’s Summary Report and Meeting Minutes:

 

Chairman Browdy requested a motion to approve the December 13, 2013 Facilitator’s Summary Report and Meeting Minutes as presented/posted.  Commissioner Brown entered a Motion to approve the December 13, 2013 Facilitator’s Summary Report and Meeting Minutes as presented.  Commissioner Schilling seconded the Motion.  The Motion passed unanimously.

 

Chairman’s Discussion Issues and Recommendations:

 

Chairman Browdy stated that he wanted to thank Phillip Wisley for his dedicated and outstanding service to the Special Occupancy TAC and welcomed Ken Cureton as a new TAC member.  Chairman Browdy provided background on Mr. Cureton and advised the Commission that he was previously an employee with the Commission Office at DBPR as a Planning Analyst bringing experience to the TAC.

 

Legislative Updates:

 

Chairman Browdy advised each year the Commission schedules a series of teleconference meetings to receive updates and provide any needed guidance and/or recommendations to staff pertaining to proposed legislation of interest to the Commission. Typically the calls are on Mondays and start at 10:00 AM. It will be important that Commissioners participate and also we need to ensure we have a quorum for each meeting. Thank you in advance for your commitment. The following is the proposed schedule for the 2014 Legislative Session Commission teleconference meetings schedule:

 

March 10, March 24, April 7, April 28, May 12, 2014

 

Chairman Browdy stated if there is no further discussion, Commissioners I would ask for a Motion to approve the schedule for 2014 Legislative Session Commission teleconference meetings.

 

A motion to approve the 2014 Legislative Session Commission teleconference meetings schedule was entered by Commissioner Boyer and seconded by Commissioner Schock.  The motion passed unanimously.

 

Chairman Browdy requested that Jim Richmond provide an explanation of the Commission’s role in the Legislative process.

 

Jim Richmond provided a description of the role of the Commission in the Legislative process and provided the Florida Building Commission laws and how they work in the system.

 


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Legislative Updates:

 

Mr. Richmond provided the following additional information:

 

 

Chairman Browdy stressed the importance of participation on the legislative calls.

 

Commission Meeting Dates/Locations FY 2014-2015

 

The remaining meeting dates and locations for the current fiscal year (2013-2014) ending June 30,2014 are:

 

April 17, 2014 at the Gaylord Plaza Orlando

June 19-20, 2014 at the Hilton Daytona Beach

 

Following are the Commission meeting dates for fiscal year 2014-2015:

August 22, 2014

October 17, 2014

December 12, 2014

February 20, 2015

April 17, 2015

June 19, 2015

 

The Commission meeting dates and locations are posted to the BCIS under the Florida Building

Commission tab, and then the Meeting Locations tab.

 

Accessibility Waiver Applications:

 

Chairman Browdy advised the Commission will now consider this month’s requests for accessibility waivers. April Hammonds will serve as legal counsel and present the Accessibility Advisory Council’s recommendations.

 

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Accessibility Waiver Applications (cont.):

 

 

April Hammonds, Accessibility Advisory Council legal advisor, presented the Accessibility Advisory Council’s provided the recommendations of the Council to the Commission.

 

KLKS, LLC 7175 South West 47 Street, Miami - Council recommended granting based on disproportionate cost.

 

Commissioner Schock entered a motion to approve the waiver; Commissioner Meyer seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

South Beach Hotel 236 21st Street, Miami Beach - Council recommended granting based on disproportionate cost and historical grounds.

 

Commissioner Schiffer entered a motion to approve the waiver; Commissioner Smith seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Delta Investment Group 107 South West 7th Street, Gainesville - Council recommended granting based on disproportionate cost.

 

Commissioner Schock entered a motion to approve the waiver; Commissioner Schiffer seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Haddon Hall Hotel and the Campton Apartments 1500 Collins Avenue and 1455

Washington Avenue, Miami Beach - Council recommended granting based on historical grounds and technical infeasibility.

 

Commissioner Schiffer entered a motion to approve the waiver; Commissioner Schilling seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Fred Schweitz, Too Your Health Spa, 995 South Highway 27/441, Ocala – Council recommended deferral until next meeting to provide electronic version of the application.

 

Commissioner Schock entered a motion to defer the waiver; Commissioner Meyer seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.


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Accessibility Waiver Applications (cont.):

 

Gould Business Center Buildout 587 West Eau Gallie Boulevard, Melbourne - Council recommended granting based on technical infeasibility and disproportionate costs.

 

Commissioner Schiffer entered a motion to approve the waiver; Commissioner Smith seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Alpha Delta Pi Sorority 537 West Jefferson Street, Tallahassee - Council recommended deferral until next meeting to provide additional information including cost breakdown and determination of ownership of the property.

 

Commissioner Meyer entered a motion to defer the waiver; Commissioner Brown seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

New Staff Introduction:

 

Chairman Browdy asked that Mo Madani introduce new staff member.

 

Mr. Madani introduced the new staff member Robert Benbow as lead for the product approval process.  Chairman Browdy welcomed Robert to the staff.

 

Applications for Product Entity Approval:

 

Applications for Product and Entity Approval

 

Chairman Browdy requested Commissioner Stone report on the POC’s recommendations for entity approvals and the consent agenda for products recommended for approval. He stated the presentation will start with the consent agenda followed by entity approval applications, and conclude with discussion items. Chairman Browdy stated Commissioner Stone will now present the applications on the consent agenda and entity approval applications.

 

Commissioner Stone advised the Product Approval Oversight Committee met on Thursday, February 6, 2014 via conference call with a quorum present.

 

Commissioner Stone entered a motion to approve the consent agenda of 88 products as submitted; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Commissioner Stone entered a motion to approve 10 product entities on the consent agenda, Commissioner Dean seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.


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Applications for Product Approval (cont.):

 

Commissioner Stone then referred the discussion items, several which were related to the same issue.

 

Jeff Blair introduced 1663-R1 stating recommended approval by the POC.

Commissioner Stone entered a motion to approve product 1663-R1, Commissioner Dean seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Jeff Blair introduced the following products for approval by the Commission:

 

1663-R1- Commissioner Stone entered a motion to approve product 1663-R1, Commissioner Dean seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

16749- Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

15894-R2- Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC, Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16725- Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

3504-R-5 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC, Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

15892-R3 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC, Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16057-R1 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16707 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16717 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16718 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16722 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16723 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16730 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16732 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16733 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.


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Applications for Product Approval (cont.):

 

16736 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16739 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16742 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16758 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

16767 - Commissioner Stone entered motion to conditionally approve as recommended by the POC; Commissioner Dean seconded the motion passed unanimously.

 

Applications for Accreditor and Course Approval:

 

Chairman Browdy requested that Commissioner Dean present the Education POC’s recommendations regarding applications for accreditor and course approval.

 

Commissioner Dean provided the following two Courses from the POC for Commission action:

 

635.0 – Commissioner Dean entered a motion to approve the Advanced Accredited Course, Commissioner Stone seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

477.0 – Commissioner Dean entered a motion to approve the Administratively Approved Self-Affirmed Course, Commissioner Stone seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

 

Petitions for Declaratory Statement:

 

Chairman Browdy asked April Hammonds, Legal Counsel for the Commission if there were any other legal issues or legislative issues in addition to the declaratory statement requests.

 

Ms. Hammonds stated there were no legal issues to discuss.

 

Chairman Browdy requested that Ms. Hammonds present the declaratory statements.

 

Legal Report

 

DS 2013-123 by Garland Patterson, PE

Ms. Hammonds recommended dismissal as legally insufficient because the petition failed to include particular facts and circumstances.

 

Commissioner Carlson entered a motion to dismiss the petition; Commissioner Bassett seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.


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Petitions for Declaratory Statement (cont.):

DS2014-002 by Gulf Coast Supply and Manufacturing, LLC.

 

Ms. Hammonds read the petition and recommended response as follows:

 

To the question #1: Does Table 153.2 set forth the minimum thickness requirements used on metal roof systems, even though thinner metal roofing panels are acceptable per Table 1507.4(3)?

Answer: Yes. Table 1503.2 is specific to the type and gage of flashing that it is to be utilized and does not differentiate based on types of roof covering to be used.

 

To the Question #2: Do what we in the industry call “Trims” (eve drips, wall trims, ridge caps,

preformed valleys, etc.) qualify as flashings, seeing they are always installed at the locations listed in 1503.2.1? 

Answer: Yes. As long as the items in question are covered within the scope of section 1503.2 of the Florida Building Code.

 

Commissioner Swope entered a motion to approve the response from legal; Commissioner Schock seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Notice of Correction, Product Approval, Rules 61G20-3.001and61G20-3.002:

 

Chairman Browdy explained at the October 18, 2013 meeting the Commission conducted a rule development workshop pertaining to Product Approval Rules 61G20-3.001, 3.002, and voted to proceed with rule adoption for Product Approval Rules 61G20-3.001 and Rule 3.002, to approve the Statement of Estimated Regulatory Costs (SERC), and to conduct a rule adoption hearing only if requested.

 

In the course of reviewing the final rule the Joint Administrative Procedures Committee (JAPC)

noted that the Commission needs to correct a technical deficiency in the notice published in the

Florida Administrative Register (FAR).

 

Chairman Browdy provided the following correction information for the Commission:

 

“The agency has determined that the proposed rule is not expected to require legislative ratification based on the statement of estimated regulatory costs or if no SERC is required, the information expressly relied upon and described herein: The Department conducted an analysis of the proposed rule’s potential economic impact and determined that it did not exceed any of the criteria established in Section 120.541(2)(a), F.S.”


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Legislative Report:

 

Chairman Browdy stated that Jim Richmond would provide the Commission with a briefing regarding the proposed legislation of interest to the Commission for the 2014 Legislative Session.  He advised the bill of interest is HB 593, a bill entitled:  “An act relating to building construction.”

 

Mr. Richmond stated that on the 19th the Senate counterpart to this bill was filed.  He advised for those Commissioners not familiar, there are two chambers of the Legislature, there are companion bills that travel through each house, the House and the Senate have to match up to pass.  He said that HB 593 was filed back in January and it has been referred to a few sub-committees and is still awaits its first hearing, before the House DBPR subcommittee.  He advised that the Senate counterpart that was filed on the 19th is SB 1106.

 

Mr. Richmond advised he has not yet completed the comparison of the two bills to see the differences.  He further stated that sometimes it is just a difference in language used and provided examples.  He will review and provide the differences and path taken before going to the floor/chamber for a vote.

 

Mr. Richmond said HB 593 has not yet been reviewed and analyzed.  He stated the first section of the bill relates to local general enforcement practice, not building code enforcement, but does permit the local office to use a simplified method of notifying people of complaints.  This does not have an impact on our process.

 

Mr. Richmond then provided the Commission with detail of HB 593.

 

There was discussion among the Commission and staff on the changes.

 

Committee Reports and Recommendations:

 

Chairman Browdy asked Committee Chairmen, to confine their TAC/POC reports to a brief summary of key issues and recommendations, emphasizing any issues requiring an action from the Commission. Please frame any needed Commission action in the form of a motion.  There is no need to read the TAC/POC minutes since the complete minutes will be linked to the committees’ subsequent meeting agendas for approval by the respective committees.

 

 Accessibility Advisory Committee in conjunction with the Accessibility Technical Advisory  Committee

 

Chairman Browdy advised Commissioner was not present to provide the summary of the TAC/Advisory Council meeting of February 10, 2014 via teleconference.


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Committee Reports and Recommendations (cont.):

 

Jim Richmond, provided the report for this meeting to the Commission for their consideration.

 

Commissioner Meyer entered a motion to approve the TAC report, Commissioner Schiffer seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Education Program Oversight Committee

 

Commissioner Dean provide brief summary of the POC meeting of February 12, 2014 held via teleconference.

 

Commissioner Dean entered a motion to approve the POC report, Commissioner Stone seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Commissioner Dean entered a motion to approve recommendation of the POC to approve all technical changes requested by the Office of Fiscal Accountability Rule Reform (OFAR) made to the already proposed language changes to Rule 61G20-6.005, F.A.C.  This will change the title of the form, form number and effective date line addition in a new link on BCIS.  Commissioner Smith seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Mechanical Technical Advisory Committee

 

Commissioner Bassett provided a brief summary of the TAC meeting held February 7, 2014 via teleconference.

 

Commissioner Bassett entered a motion to approve the TAC report and any recommendations, the motion was seconded by Commissioner Calleja, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Product Approval Program Oversight Committee Complaint Update

 

Commissioner Stone provided a brief summary of the TAC meeting held February 6, 2014 via teleconference.

 

Commissioner Stone entered a motion to approve the POC report and any recommendations, Commissioner Smith seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

Roofing Technical Advisory Committee

 

Commissioner Swope provided a brief summary of the TAC meeting of February 6, 2014 via teleconference.

 

 

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Committee Reports and Recommendations (cont.):

 

Roofing Technical Advisory Committee (cont.)

 

Commissioner Swope entered a motion to approve the TAC report and any recommendations, Commissioner Batts seconded the motion, the motion passed unanimously.

 

General Public Comment:

 

Jack Glenn representing himself, asked staff to take a look at the staff link on BCIS, he said that the link goes to surcharge contact and not the entire staff.

 

Commission Member Comments and Issues:

 

Commissioner Bassett provided a picture for the Commission and public participants from the past.  He stated in the beginning it was much different back then the meetings were monthly and usually lasted 5 days to include the weekend.  He stated the picture was taken the day the Governor signed the original Florida Building Code into existence and these were the people that were there.

 

Commissioner Tolbert reminded the Commission of the accomplishment of FSU‘s latest victory.

 

Chairman Browdy congratulated the FSU Seminoles of their National Win.

 

Adjournment:

 

Chairman Browdy adjourned the meeting at 10:31 am.