Florida Building Commission

Education POC Meeting Minutes

August 2, 2016

Tallahassee, Florida

 

 

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Education POC Meeting Objectives

Ø To approve August 2, 2016 Meeting Agenda

Ø To approve March 31, 2016 Meeting Minutes and May 27, 2016 Meeting Report

Ø To review/decide pending accreditor applications

Ø To review/decide accredited advanced courses

Ø To review/decide administratively approved updated courses

Ø To review/decide self affirmed updated courses

Ø To review/discuss Education Administrator activity report

Ø To identify future POC member discussion items

Ø To discuss general public comment

Ø To identify needed next steps, assignments, and agenda items for next meeting

 

Education POC Meeting Minutes— August 2, 2016

All Agenda Times—Including Adjournment—Are Approximate and Subject to Change

10:10 a.m. EST

1.)

Welcome and Opening, Roll Call

POC Members Present: Nanette Dean, (Chair),  

Jeffrey Stone PhD, Kevin Flanagan, Darrell Phillips

POC Member(s) Absent: Brian Langille, Drew Smith

Meeting Attendees Identified:

Jim Richmond       Jim Hammers

Nick Duval           April Hammonds             

            Michael Clark        Larry Schneider

            Charles Barr

 

    

 

2.)

Review and approval of the August 2, 2016 meeting Agenda

Motion: To approve as submitted

Motion: Darrell Phillips

Second: Kevin Flanagan

Approved Unanimously

 

 

3.)

Review and approval of the March 31, 2016 Minutes and the May 27, 2016 meeting Report

Motion: To approve as submitted

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

 

4.)

Review pending accreditor applications for recommendation to the Commission

Mr. Charles Barr Pending

Discussion: The Chair asked the Education Administrator, Michael Clark, to address this agenda item. Mr. Clark stated that the applicant’s name is Mr. Charles Barr and he currently resides in St. Augustine, Florida. He further stated that Mr. Barr was previously approved as an accreditor at the December (2014) ED POC meeting. Specifically, Mr. Barr was approved to review the courses containing content regarding Class A Air Conditioning, Accessibility, Administration, Class B Air Conditioning, Building Commercial, and Building Residential. Mr. Barr, however, did not attend that meeting and he mistakenly thought he was also approved to review courses in the other content areas of Alarm 1, Alarm II, Building-Special Occupancy, Commercial Pool/Spa, Electrical Commercial, Energy, Electrical Residential, Fire, Fuel/Gas, Existing Building Code, Mechanical, Plumbing, and Pollutant Storage System. As a result, Mr. Barr is at this time requesting to be approved to review courses in these additional content areas.

 

Mr. Clark stated that all of the ED POC members were sent Mr. Barr’s resume via email. He further stated that he checked to verify that all of Mr. Barr’s licenses were current. The reason that the status of a license “being current” is important, is because in 61G20-6.002 (1) line 5 it states that, “Applications (to become a provider) shall be approved by the commission if the applicant has demonstrated five years of Florida Building Code expertise in the field for which approval is sought, or equivalent as specified below, or possess an “active license” issued pursuant to……” On that resume, Mr. Barr specifically referenced the following licenses, of which only 3 out of 7 are both current and active:

  • Unlimited General Contractor (CGC1508079) Current/Inactive 8/31/18
  • Unlimited Plumbing Contractor (CFC1426436) Current/Inactive 8/31/18
  • Unlimited Electrical Contractor (ECI3002676) Current/Inactive 8/31/18
  • Unlimited Air Cond. Contractor (CAC1814258) Current/Inactive 8/31/18
  • Fla. Build. Code Administr. (CBO) (BU908) Current/Active 11/30/17
  • Plans Examiner (Building, Plumbing, Elec., Air Cond.) (PX1172) Current/Active 11/30/17
  • Building Inspector (Building, Plumbing, Elec., Air Cond.) (BN2685) Current/Active 11/30/17

 

Mr. Clark then stated that the decision regarding Mr. Barr’s request should be based on a combination of an analysis of his resume, current licenses, and the equivalent factors mentioned in 61G20-6.002 (1) (a) (b) (c) (d). Again, Mr. Clark stated that  Mr. Barr wants to review courses regarding the additional content areas of Alarm 1, Alarm II, Building-Special Occupancy, Commercial Pool/Spa, Electrical Commercial, Energy, Electrical Residential, Fire, Fuel/Gas, Existing Building Code, Mechanical, Plumbing, and Pollutant Storage System.

 

The Chair suggested that the ED POC look at each content area individually, ask Mr. Barr to describe his experience regarding each area and question him if needed, then motion to approve/not approve. As a result, the ED POC members, with Mr. Barr explaining his experience for each, did approve each of the additional content areas. The following are the individual motions that occurred:

 

 

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of Alarm I and Alarm II

Motion: Jeffrey Stone

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content area of Building-Special Occupancy

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Jeffrey Stone

Approved Unanimously

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content area of Commercial Pool/Spa

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of Electrical Commercial and Electrical Residential

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of Energy, Fire, Fuel/Gas

Motion: Jeffrey Stone

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of Existing Building Code, Mechanical, Plumbing, and Pollutant Storage Systems

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

 

5.)

Review pending advanced accredited courses for recommendation to the Commission

 

Course: 2014 Advanced Accessibility: The Florida Accessibility Code Reconciled With The ADA Standards

Provider: The McIntosh Group

Accreditor: Larry M. Schneider AIA

BCIS Course Number: 796.0

Motion: Course conditionally approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content, subject to the addition in the syllabus as to how the course will be evaluated, as well as the addition of a general time allotment for the course content areas.

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: The Education Administrator found that no mention of how the course was to be evaluated was included in the syllabus. Also missing was a general time allotment for the course content areas. Both of these pieces of information are required by rule language.

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced Internet Florida Statutes Part II Course

Provider: Alarm Tech Training

Accreditor: Stay Safe Enterprises

BCIS Course Number: 798.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: None

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 FBC – Advanced Module

Provider: Versatile Industries, Inc.

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 794.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: None

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 Advanced FBC Update

Provider: JC Code and Construction Consultants, Inc.

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 801.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: None

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 Advanced Florida Building Code – Components and Cladding

Provider: YKK AP America Inc.

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 799.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: Commissioner Flanagan stated that he thought the course exhibited a very nice presentation.

Approved Unanimously

 

 

 

6.)

 

Review pending administratively approved updated courses for recommendation to the Commission

Course: 2014 Thermal and Moisture Protection: Keeping the Weather Out

Provider: A Builders License Training Institute

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 635.1

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: None

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 Advanced Building Code Course For Pool Contractors (Internet)

Provider: Aquatic Training Institute

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 359.2

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: None

Approved Unanimously

 

 

 

7.)

 

Review pending administratively approved self affirmed (ONE CHANGE) updated courses for recommendation to the Commission

None Pending

 

 

 

8.)

 

Education Administrator activity report

Discussion: The Education Administrator stated that the report contained brief descriptions of the normal activities of the Administrator from May 16th through July 24th, 2016, including staffing the ED POC meetings and handling inquiries from a variety of sources concerning the FBC Education Program. He also stated that “Training Funding” information (for 2016-2017) was also included in the report, which was promoted by Building A Safer Florida (BASF), and which included the who/what of eligibility requirements. He stated that if anyone was interested, or had questions, to contact Cam Fentriss by the email address listed with the information. No questions were forthcoming from the ED POC members concerning the report content.

 

Larry Schneider (a training provider and accreditor) did ask why “Accessibility” was not included as a possible eligible course topic within the Training Funding Information. The Education Administrator did not know of a reason and stated he would ask Cam Fentriss (BASF) why it was not included. He also stated that he would report back to the ED POC, as well as call Mr. Schneider with his findings.

 

A. Provided administrative support for FBC Education POC for the May 27th, 2016 meeting

 

B. Drafted report for FBC Education POC May 27th, 2016 meeting

 

C. Prepared agenda for FBC Education POC meeting on August 2nd, 2016

 

D. Worked with training providers and accreditors to ensure compliance with Rule 61G20-6.002

 

E. Checked the BCIS to ensure information is current regarding the FBC Education and Accreditation Program

 

F. Inquiries addressed from May 16th, 2016 to July 24th, 2016 were as follows:

42 inquiries: 27 telephone; 10 email; 5 phone and email

Category of Inquirers :

1 Architect

4 Accreditor

9 Provider

19 Consumer

6 Contractor

1 Engineer

1 Private Investigator

1 Code enforcement officer

 

Types of Inquiries :

10 Advanced Courses

4 BCIS

1 CILB

1 Education Rule Language

2 Provider approval

6 Mobile, module, manufactured housing

6 Windows

1 Construction lien law

1 Warranty

1 CDBG

4 Pools

3 Homeowner association/covenants

1 ADA

1 Fire Sprinkler



Training Funding Available for 2016-2017

 

Two types of funding: 7-hour program or “minimum 1 hour” program

Reimbursement amount: $23.00 per hour per attendee Available now, ends June 15, 2017

Eligible attendees:

-- Licensed architects, engineers, interior designers, landscape architects, construction contractors, electrical

contractors, or building code administrators or inspectors

-- Home inspectors, mold remediators

--- Must include license number for all categories above

-- Employees in design and construction industries, requires this documentation:

--- Letter from their design/construction licensed employer

--- Copy of certificate of workers’ compensation insurance or exemption

 

Eligible course topics:

-- Florida Building Code

-- Florida Fire Prevention Code

-- Construction plan and permitting requirements

-- Construction liens

-- Hurricane mitigation

 

For “minimum 1 hour” program, course requirements:

-- At least 50% must be codes

 

For 7-hour program, course requirements:

-- At least three (3) hours codes

-- At least two (2) hours advanced codes

 

For any program, course requirements:

-- Mitigation training for home inspectors must include proctored exam and comply with section 627.711(2), F.S.

-- *Course evaluations are REQUIRED that cover the following:

--- Satisfaction with instructor

--- Satisfaction with course materials

--- Satisfaction with conduct of the training

--- Ask whether “highly satisfied” “satisfied” “not satisfied” for each above

 

Must enter into an agreement before submitting for grant funds, must verify availability of funds first.

 

Documentation required (failure to submit is a 5% penalty):

-- Submitted within FIVE (5) WORKING DAYS AFTER EACH COURSE

-- Advertisement (must be approved in advance)

-- Sign in sheets as acceptable for each licensing board

-- Separate sign in sheets for licensees and non-licensed employees

-- Non-licensed employee sign in sheets must include type of proof submitted

-- *Copy of course evaluation for each attendee

 

*Failure to demonstrate that 75% or more of trainees were satisfied or highly satisfied with the course instructor will result in a 1% penalty for each 5% increment or portion thereof that the percentage of satisfied trainees fall below 75%.

 

E-mail Cam Fentriss at basfgrant@gmail.com if interested and for more information.

 

 

9.)

Identify future POC member discussion items

No future ED POC member discussion items were forthcoming.

 

 

10.)

General public comment

No comments from the general public were forthcoming.

 

 

11.)

Summary and review of meeting work products and adoption of recommendations for submittal to the commission

Recommended Commission Actions

 

The Education POC considered and recommends the following:

 

The following new courses are recommended for APPROVAL:

Course: Advanced Internet Florida Statutes Part II Course

Provider: Alarm Tech Training

Accreditor: Stay Safe Enterprises

BCIS Course Number: 798.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 FBC – Advanced Module

Provider: Versatile Industries, Inc.

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 794.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 Advanced FBC Update

Provider: JC Code and Construction Consultants, Inc.

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 801.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 Advanced Florida Building Code – Components and Cladding

Provider: YKK AP America Inc.

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 799.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

 

The following new course is recommended for CONDITIONAL APPROVAL:

 

Course: 2014 Advanced Accessibility: The Florida Accessibility Code Reconciled With The ADA Standards

Provider: The McIntosh Group

Accreditor: Larry M. Schneider AIA

BCIS Course Number: 796.0

Motion: Course conditionally approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content, subject to the addition in the syllabus as to how the course will be evaluated, as well as the addition of a general time allotment for the course content areas.

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

The following administratively approved updated courses are recommended for APPROVAL:

Course: 2014 Thermal and Moisture Protection: Keeping the Weather Out

Provider: A Builders License Training Institute

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 635.1

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

 

Course: 2014 Advanced Building Code Course For Pool Contractors (Internet)

Provider: Aquatic Training Institute

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 359.2

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Other ED POC Motions

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of Alarm I and Alarm II

Motion: Jeffrey Stone

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content area of Building-Special Occupancy

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Jeffrey Stone

Approved Unanimously

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content area of Commercial Pool/Spa

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of Electrical Commercial and Electrical Residential

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of Energy, Fire, Fuel/Gas

Motion: Jeffrey Stone

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Motion: To approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of Existing Building Code, Mechanical, Plumbing, and Pollutant Storage Systems

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

 

12.)

Adjourned at 10:41 am est

Motion: To adjourn

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Staff Contact: Michael Clark (MRC Consulting) mrcconsulting@earthlink.net; 850.545.1451

 

Committee Membership and Meeting Schedule

 

 

Education POC Membership

Member

Representation

Nanette Dean

Manufactured Buildings, Chair

Kevin Flanagan

Electrical Contractor

Drew Smith

Green Building Industry

Jeffrey Stone PhD

Building Product Manufacturer

Darrell Phillips

Public Education

Brian Langille

Natural Gas Distributor

 

Staff

April Hammonds

Legal Advisor

Jim Hammers

Technical Support

Jim Richmond

Administrative

Facilitator

Michael Clark

(MRC Consulting)

 

2016 POC Meeting Schedule

I.

January 29, 2016 (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

II.

March 31, 2016 (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

III.

May 27, 2016 (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

IV.

August 2, 2016 (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

V.

October, 2016 (TBA) (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

VI.

December, 2016 (TBA) (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

 

 

 

 

2016 Course Accreditation Application Deadline Schedule

 

ED POC Meeting Date

Accredited Applications  Submittal Deadline

I.

January 29, 2016 Meeting

January 17, 2016

II.

March 31, 2016 Meeting

March 20, 2016

III.

May, 27, 2016 Meeting

May 16, 2016

IV.

August 2, 2016 Meeting

July 25,  2016

V.

October, 2016 Meeting (TBA)

September, 2016 (TBA)

VI.

December, 2016 Meeting (TBA)

November, 2016 (TBA)

 

 

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