Florida
Building Commission
Product Approval/Manufactured Buildings
Program Oversight Committee (POC)
Minutes
July 28, 2011
2:30 P.M.
Teleconference
2555 Shumard Oak Boulevard, Room 250L
Tallahassee, FL 32399
Product Approval Program
Oversight Committee members present: Ed Carson, Chair, Herminio Gonzalez, Chris
Schulte, Jeffrey Stone, John Scherer, and Nicholas Nicholson
Absent: Tim Tolbert
DCA and Commission Staff
attending included: Ila Jones, Mo Madani,
Suzanne Davis, Jeff Blair, and Ted Berman.
1.
The Meeting was
called to order at 2:30 P.M. by Chairman, Ed Carson. The agenda was approved as
read. The May 2011 Minutes was approved.
2.
Product Approval
Program issues
A. Staff
presented the Product Approval Entities and Statistics Report (7/13/2011).
B. Product
Approval Administrator’s Survey –
staff reported that there were no responses for this cycle.
3.
Discussion Items:
A. Update on
the 2011 Legislative Issues for Product Approval and Rule 9N-3 – Staff reported that the changes to the Rule that had
to do with the 10-day review process have been completed, filed, and published
and are available. In addition, staff
reported that HB849 has been signed and implemented dealing with changes to the
Florida Statutes that would require impact protection products be approved
pursuant to s. 553.842 or s. 553.8425, Florida Statutes, before it can be
advertised, sold, offered, or marketed.
B. Product Approval 2012 Deadline Schedule – The new timeline was approved as presented.
C. Budget Projections 1) Product Approval Fees
and 2) Program Appropriation Breakdown – Ila Jones presented and reviewed budget
projections and appropriations for the next three years for the Product
Approval and Manufactured Buildings programs.
The fees presented only reflect those fees collected by the Commission
and do not include those fees to the product approval administrator. The appropriation breakdown is based on salaries.
Discussion took place regarding future surcharge collections and fees for the
manufactured buildings program. Staff
will compile an analysis of the Manufactured Buildings Program and present it
at the meeting in October. No action
from the POC was required.
D. Report on Common Validator Mistakes by Ted
Berman & Associates – Staff
provided a brief overview of the objective and reported that staff has begun to
contact the validators to review the report and offer any assistance to help
make improvements. The errors made were
technical in nature and others were an oversight of small details. Ted reported that the list contained
information from August 15th to April 15th, approximately
2.5 cycles. Ted also reported that Validators
were making improvements and plans are to continue the individual conferences. Staff
will be providing an update at the October meeting.
E. Complaint on Applications FL14239 and FL9688
(1 & 2) – Staff provided an
overview of the issues presented. FL9688
has been archived and is not active. The
complaint is currently being reviewed by the Florida Board of Engineers. Staff recommended that the POC express to the
manufacturer that there are deficiencies that should be corrected as soon as
possible. The POC’s action was to table
the issue until the Board of Engineers has reached a conclusion.
F. Complaint on Applications FL3203-R1 and
FL3203-R2 – Staff provided an
overview of this complaint. FL3203-R1 is
not an active product and thus is no longer an issue. Product number FL3203-R2 has been revised as
requested by the POC in a previous meeting. It was determined by the POC that
no further action was required. Mr. Ben
Meng and Mr. Manucy were present and provided their concerns regarding the
complaint.
G. Dry Glass Spacer Report – Ted Berman presented an overview of the report to
the POC stating that applications were reviewed to see if the spacing was
identified and the type of missile that was tested and that a list of
applications with such deficiencies have been identified. The POC recommended that Ted contact those
manufactures from the report and request that they revise their drawings to
include the spacer specifications for dry glazed.
4.
Ted Berman &
Associates Report – Products and entities were reviewed and approved.
Recommendations
were provided. DCA approved products
were made available on the agenda as required by rule and no comment was raised
at the meeting regarding those products, except as listed below:
·
FL14552 Twin City Fan Companies, Ltd. – Limits of use – Staff provided information that the manufacturer
was provided with a comment and has responded as willing to put the comment on
the application provided that the other manufacturers provide the same
information. POC Action is to request
staff to investigate other products and ensure that they be reviewed and
revised to comply with the limits of use as being consistent with this
manufacturer.
·
FL14032 –
Archived. Applicant is going to revise.
No action is required.
·
FL14464 – The
public comment states that this is not a code requirement. No action by the POC is required. Jamie
Gascon, Miami-Dade County, stated that these exterior panels are falling off
buildings when the unit is being operated.
It is not an HVHZ issue; it is a life safety issue and should be
corrected by a code amendment. Steve Strom, JeldWen stated that it is more of a
design issue than an HVHZ issue. Commissioner
Schulte stated that WDMA and AAMA should be made aware of this issue.
5.
Adjourn – Meeting
adjourned at 3:58 P.M.
Actions
Needed by the Commission: