Florida Building Commission
Education POC Minutes
St.
Augustine, Florida
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Meeting Information
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Date: Monday, April 8, 2013
Time: 10:00 am, Eastern Daylight
Time (New York, GMT-04:00)
Meeting Site: World Golf Village
Renaissance Hotel
500 S. Legacy Tr.
St. Augustine,
Florida 32092
For assistance, you can contact me at:
ila.jones@dbpr.state.fl.us
1-850-717-1822
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Education
POC Meeting Minutes— January 28, 2013 |
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All Agenda Times—Including Adjournment—Are
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10:05
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1.) |
Welcome
and Opening, Roll Call POC Members Present: Nan Dean, Chair, Jeffrey
Stone PhD, Herminio Gonzalez, Drew Smith, Kevin Flanagan, Jon Hamrick POC Member(s) Absent: Ken
Gregory Meeting
Attendees Identified: Cam Fentriss Michael Clark, Facilitator Ila
Jones April Hammonds Mo
Madani Chris Burgwald Jim
Richmond Jim Hammers William
Marshall |
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2.) |
Review
and approval of the April 8, 2013 meeting Agenda Motion: To
approve as submitted Motion: Drew
Smith Second: Herminio
Gonzalez Approved Unanimously |
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Review
and approval of April 2, 2013 meeting Minutes Motion: To
approve as submitted Motion:
Herminio Gonzalez Second:
Jeffrey Stone Approved Unanimously |
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BCIS
Operations Michael Clark provided background on current POC
information and introduced William Marshall, ISCF-BCIS. Mr. Clark stated the reason for the meeting
is the accreditation process with Mr. Marshall providing presentation on
enhancements to the BCIS system and to gain input from the trainers and
providers. |
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Pending
advanced courses Mr. Clark advised there are no pending advanced
courses at this time |
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Information
and processes useful to both providers and Accreditors Mr. Clark provided objectives for participants via
PowerPoint presentation, clearly defining the accreditation process and Trainer/Accreditor
responsibilities. There was a visual aid provided revealing the
exact steps required for Advanced Course accreditation process. Mr. Clark outlined the process of how courses are
entered into the BCIS system.
Definitions were provided for the Advanced Course categories. CE course review process was given along
with course content and criteria required. Mr. Clark advised that once the prior information
was provided the accreditation process is completed. Information was provided on how course materials
can be modified and the steps to accomplish the modifications. Mr. Clark clearly defined the difference between a
course that is accredited and one that is submitted. ED POC review and approval was explained to the
group with the most common oversights identified by the ED POC. Mr. Clark advised the final stage of course review
by the FBC and the process used. Course Providers can submit course approval to
DBPR Professional Boards when approval from FBC has been received. Mr. Clark advised that the Boards approve
according to their own criteria and must be registered with each board. Provider and Accreditor responsibilities were
outline by Mr. Clark. |
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Questions/Public
Input: Ellen Sakamoto asked if courses have to be
re-submitted if there are changes made to the content based on the code
changes from 2010 to 2013. Ms. Fentriss advised that when changing a course,
it may in circumstance constitute a new program; however this is no
percentage of change listed. It was
her advice that if the content of the program changes it would be considered
a new course. John Farnelli opened discussion on Internet
Courses. Commissioner Hamrick,
Commissioner Stone spoke about being able to see exactly what a participant
would see in a class. There was
discussion on information listed that was not worthy of course approval and
inconsistencies should be noted. There
was further discussion on whether a rule could be drafted to clarify what is
expected. April Hammonds, Legal Counsel advised the rule does currently
provide the information needed. Ms.
Fentriss quoted subsection 4 & L provide language. Commissioner Gonzalez spoke about the fact that he
feels that 50% of some courses are selling products and not including the
Building Code information. Ms. Sakamoto stated that a lot of the providers
are worried about infringing on the copy rights of the Code. Ms. Hammonds explained the difference of
copy write and using the Code as content in a course and the need to provide
where the information was obtained. Commissioner Stone questioned periods of time when
changes can be submitted and when they would show available for change. Mr. Marshall provide on screen change process. Mr. Clark provided time periods encouraged
and required for changes. Mr. Madani
advised of publishing requirements.
Ms. Hammonds advised rules are clear on deadlines for
submissions. She also explained that
the Accreditor should understand their responsibilities and advised the POC’s
input and actions allowed when catching mistakes. Discussion followed with the POC John Farinelli
discussed the small group of accreditors and the fact that he is a provider
and Accreditor and cannot approve his own programs. April Hammonds, Legal Counsel advised all
providers/accreditors should avoid cross accreditation. She further explained that mutual
relationships can sometimes give an appearance of impropriety. Ms. Hammonds advised Standard Business practices
should always be followed. Gene Jarvis, General Contractor, stated he was
encountering issues with finding accreditors.
He explained his issues and asked the POC how to submit when he cannot
get and Accreditor to review his course. Mr. Farinelli suggested all providers should make
sure Accreditor is in good standing and to check their background as well as
individual credentials. Lisa Pate asked if list of accreditors is
available. Mr. Marshall advised they are on BCIS by subject. Presentation
of BCIS enhancements William Marshall provided an online presentation
of BCIS and the process to make it simpler for providers by breaking courses
into steps for entry into system. Mr.
Marshall provided an onscreen walk through of each step and all updates to
the system. Mr. Marshall advised the current format being used
in PDF. Commissioner Hamrick asked
about uploading and the fact that most Internet Courses are HTML and the
ability to link to course through BCIS.
Discussion followed on topic. Gary Brevoort stated these presentations were very
helpful to all parties. |
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ED POC
Member Comments: Discussion was held with Commissioner Stone,
Hamrick and Flanagan regarding errors, typos etc verses course content when
looking at courses. |
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Public
Comment: There was no further public comment |
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Adjourn 11:36 am |