Structural Technical Advisory Committee 

MINUTES

Tuesday, June 24 , 2008

8:00 A.M. – 8:40 A.M.

Rosen Centre Hotel
9840 International Drive
Orlando , Florida
1- 407-996-9840

1.  There was a quorum. The agenda and the minutes were approved as presented.

Structural TAC:……………………………………………… Do Kim, Chairman

The following members were present Paul Kidwell, Craig Parrino, C.W. Macomber, Dave Olmstead, George Wiggins, Rusty Carroll, Jack Glenn, Jaime Gascon

Staff present were Rick Dixon, Jim Richmond, Mo Madani, Betty Stevens, Azhar Khan, and Joe Bigelow

2. The following Declaratory Statements were considered and actions were provided as follows:

DCA08-DEC-119 by Dick Wilhelm, Fenestration Manufacturers Association and Jeff Lowinski, Window and Door Manufacturers Association

Question:

 

WDMA and FMA believe the intent and correct interpretation of the product labeling provisions for windows, sliding glass doors and skylights of Sections R613.3.1, R613.3.1.1 and 1714.5.2.1 of the 2007 Florida Building Code is that the information required in these sections is to be included on a supplemental / temporary label that remains on the product until final approval. Further, a permanent label or marking must identify the manufacturer, but all remaining information required in these sections maybe included but is not mandatory.

 

Do you agree with this interpretation?

 

Answer:

 

It is the intent of Sections R613.3.1, R613.3.1.1 of the FBC, Residential and Section 1714.5.2.1 of the FBC, Building to require two types of labels (a permanent label and a temporary supplemental label).  However, the permanent label must always be the default label in case the temporary label is missing or no longer legible for final approval by the building official.  The following are the list of information required to be indicated on each label:

 

Exterior windows and sliding glass doors:

 

§         Permanent Label:

§         Permanent label is a label that cannot be removed without noticeable damage:

§         It is limited to one design pressure rating per reference standard per label.

§         Permanent label shall identify:

§         the manufacturer

§         performance characteristics

§         Product’s model/series number

§         Approved product certification agency, testing lab, evaluation entity or Miami-Dade Product Approval to indicate compliance with the relevant standards

§         Temporary Label:

§         Temporary Label has to be printed and supplied by the manufacturer and shall identify:

§         the manufacturer

§         products model/series number,

§         positive and negative design pressure rating,

§         products maximum size,

§         glazing thickness, 

§         indicate impact rated if applicable,

§         Florida Product Approval number or Miami-Dade Product Approval number if applicable, and applicable test standard.

§         The supplemental label is limited to one design pressure rating per reference standard per label.

 

Skylights:

 

§         Permanent Label:

§         Permanent label is a label that cannot be removed without noticeable damage:

§         It is limited to one design pressure rating per reference standard per label.

§         Permanent label shall identify:

§         the manufacturer

§         performance characteristics

§         Product’s model/series number

§         Approved product certification agency, testing lab, evaluation entity or Miami-Dade Product Approval to indicate compliance with the relevant standards

§         Temporary Label:

§         Temporary Label has to be printed and supplied by the manufacturer and shall identify:

§         the manufacturer

§         products model/series number,

§         positive and negative design pressure rating,

§         products maximum size,

§         glazing thickness, 

§         indicate impact rated if applicable,

§         Florida Product Approval number or Miami-Dade Product Approval number if applicable, and applicable test standard.

§         The supplemental label is limited to one design pressure rating per reference standard per label.

DCA08-DEC-150 by James Paula, St. Johns County Board of County Commissioners

Question #1 Is it the intent of 3109.4.1 to require that decks and stairs attached to the structure also require a pile foundation?

Answer: Yes, the Florida Building Code does not differentiate between one portion of a structure to another.  The decks would be considered a part of a habitable structure and the stairs are a part of the required egress for the structure.

 

Question #2  Is it the intent of FBC 3109.4.1 to allow a design ratio or pile spacing to pile diameter of less than 8:1?

Answer: No, Section 3109.4.1 states in part that “design ratio or pile spacing to pile diameter should not be less than 8:1 for individual piles located above the design grade.”

 

Question #3  Is it the intent of FBC 3109.3 to require that the bottom of the lowest horizontal structural member be located above the 100 year storm elevation when a portion of the lowest horizontal members fall landward of the CCCL line?

Answer:  Yes, the scoping section 3109.1.1 states in part that the provision of section 3109 shall apply to “all habitable structures which extend wholly or partially seaward of a CCCL or 50 foot setback line.” “Emphasis added”

3. The committee adjourned at 8.40 am.

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