Florida Building Commission

Building (Fire) Technical Advisory Committee

Concurrent with

The FLORIDA FIRE ADVISORY COUNCIL

Meeting Minutes

January 3, 2013

                  

Meeting Location:  Teleconference Meeting from Tallahassee, Florida

 

TAC/POC Members and Objectives

TAC Members Present Via Teleconference: Hamid Bahadori, Chairman; Joe Belcher, Pete Schwab, Brad Schiffer, Tony Apfelbeck, Dale Greiner, Charles Frank

TAC Members not Present: Jeffery Gross, Jon Hamrick, Joe Holland, , Jim Schock

Staff Present: Mo Madani, April Hammonds, Jim Richmond, Kenneth Cureton

Facilitator: Kenneth Cureton

Objectives: The purpose of this meeting was to discuss a possible conflict between the Florida Building Code and Florida Fire Prevention Code with regard to the fire flow requirements for one- and two- family dwellings as depicted in NFPA1 Section 18.4.5.1 of the 2010 Florida Fire Prevention Code. The Meeting was conducted concurrent with the Florida Fire Advisory Council members and staff.

 

 

Meeting Minutes

Objective

Discussion of objectives included the following: 

1)

 

9:00 AM Welcome and Opening, Roll Call.  A quorum was present.

Mr. Ken Cureton, facilitator for the Florida Building Commission, provided a brief overview of teleconferencing etiquette to alleviate some of the phone issues experienced in the past. Mr. Julius Halas with the State Fire Marshal office acted as facilitator for the Florida Fire Advisory Council. The agendas for both the FBC Fire TAC and the Florida Fire Advisory Council were approved unanimously by the respective committee members.

2)

Mr. Halas introduced the Florida Fire Advisory Council agenda in accordance with F.S. 633.0125, and opened the discussion of a possible conflict between the Florida Building Code and Florida Fire Prevention Code with regard to the fire flow requirements for one- and two- family dwellings as depicted in Section 18.4.5.1 of the 2010 Florida Fire Prevention Code, as well as potential future changes to the Triennial Update of the 2013 Florida Fire Prevention Code (2013 edition). Mr. Halas presented the background of the subject matter under review and discussed Statutory Citations and specific case examples that relate to the fire flow requirement issues.

3)

Fire TAC / Florida Fire Advisory Council Member Comments – After discussion of the issues and relevant statutes, it was agreed that the characterization of the subject of this meeting as a “conflict” in the codes is incorrect. It was also agreed that for any rulemaking to be opened on this subject, it should be in pursuant to the criteria set forth in F.S. 633.0215(5(c). Mr. Halas indicated that rulemaking would be carried out as workshops conducted by the Florida Fire Advisory Council.

4)

Public Comment – The majority of public comments were made by representatives of the City of Naples, in which they indicated their concern on how the current fire flow code requirements impacts infill projects of existing developments, and the related expenses of infrastructure upgrades. Members of the TAC commented that the fire sprinkler requirement indicated in the Code is an alternative to providing adequate fire flow.

5)

TAC Action – After a motion by the Fire TAC, members of both the Fire TAC and the Florida Fire Advisory Council agreed unanimously to recommend that the State Fire Marshal move forward with the issue by acknowledging that a “conflict” relating to this issue between the Florida Building Code and the Florida Fire Prevention Code does not exist. On a separate motion by the Florida Fire Advisory Council, it was agree that the SFM should investigate the potential of proceeding with rulemaking pursuant to the requirements of F.S. 633.0215(5(c).

6)

Motion to adjourn by Hamid Bahadori

Adjourn:  10:30 AM

 

Staff Contacts: Kenneth H. Cureton, Planning Analyst ken.cureton@dbpr.state.fl.us (850) 921-2282 or Mo Madani, Manager mo.madani@dbpr.state.fl.us